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and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell of a job. like a referee in a boxing match. each candidate had a tough moment or two. here is warren tripped up, i think, when asked to name a republican she could work with. just name a senator or any bunch of them. here is what she said. let's watch. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big issues, substantive issues, that the country faces? >> i think probably richard lugar would be one that would come to mind. >> he's not going to be there. >> he's not going to be there. >> who else could you name, senator? >> that is a problem. let me do this one -- let me
and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to win by double digits up there, to also vote for him, a republican. susan milligan is a contributing editor to "u.s. news & world report," and michael steele is the former chairman of the republican national committee, also an msnbc political analyst. i'm going to try to look at this down the middle. i saw the whole debate today. i was fascinated. i think david gregory did a hell...
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i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against obama. mitt romney's challenge in this upcoming debate and in the other debates is to show some sense of humanity and empathy that will get some people to vote for him on a positive basis. that's what's missing now. that's the 2% or 3% or 4% that he's missing that he's got to get. he's not going to get any more out of the anti-obama message. he's got to get it out of a pro-romney message, which is exactly why the obama campaign is running that ad that you just showed in colorado and in the other swing states. >> yeah. >> hey, a
i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against...
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if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want...
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barack obama is 6'1" and 175. romney is a little more plotting as a fighter, a little bit more mechanical. obama perhaps a little lighter but maybe not punching quite as hard. if you're looking for a fight scorecard, look at those metrics to start. one other thing that i think is important to remember in this. you talk about the advantage of presidency, but there's a disadvantage, which is a rhetorical strength barack obama didn't have the last time he debated. anything he says about a foreign country can be judged in diplomatic terms when he talks about issues and congress. these are blow up. he knows too much in a way and has to figure out how to bring back the knowledge set to what he says publicly both from a legal and sort of intelligence standpoint and also just from a good politicliolitical standpoi. >> he knows too much. >> jonathan, i think i can count on you to be objective with me. some would argue that obama has been given something of a pass on his record over the past year, and this might be the firs
barack obama is 6'1" and 175. romney is a little more plotting as a fighter, a little bit more mechanical. obama perhaps a little lighter but maybe not punching quite as hard. if you're looking for a fight scorecard, look at those metrics to start. one other thing that i think is important to remember in this. you talk about the advantage of presidency, but there's a disadvantage, which is a rhetorical strength barack obama didn't have the last time he debated. anything he says about a...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> likable enough. and that was a moment in new hampshire. some game changing moments from debates past and present and could tomorrow night's debate produce anything as memorable. one thing important, ruth, john, we've lived through these debate moments but they're not all game changers. arguably some of those moments like lloyd bentsen and dan quayle didn't change anything because michael dukakis in the final presidential debate showed sort of a remarkable lack of human affect you might say in response to bernie schultz question. >> that didn't help
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough,...
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and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill o'reilly conceded mitt romney is a mystery man. >> people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across as a regular guy, which i'm not sure he can do. >> true to form romney's policies remain veiled in the same cloud of mystery. his running mate paul ryan refused to say how much their tax cut would cost alleging it would take too long to get into all the math. congressman ryan defended that dodge yesterday. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing
and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure....
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our view is obama has done a poor job. everything he did that was wrong was when he had overwhelming democratic support. it's appropriate to ask now, how did that work out? and then he added this. he said, quote, i'm pretty confident the american people are not going to go back to 2009 and 2010 and let the other side have total control of the government. total control of the government? think about that for a second. mitch mcconnell is talking about democrats controlling the senate and the white house and democrats controlling the house. i mean, few people other than nancy pelosi and other house democrats are talking about the democrats conceivably taking control of the house. but mitch mcconnell seems to think that's a possibility. as the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell is most concerned with senate seats and that's what he's backstopping here when pitching to donors. but the pitch he's making to republican donors is amazing. he's pitching that republicans need to work hard and collect your hard-earned mo
our view is obama has done a poor job. everything he did that was wrong was when he had overwhelming democratic support. it's appropriate to ask now, how did that work out? and then he added this. he said, quote, i'm pretty confident the american people are not going to go back to 2009 and 2010 and let the other side have total control of the government. total control of the government? think about that for a second. mitch mcconnell is talking about democrats controlling the senate and the...
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obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines.
obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? open enrollment is here. the time to choose your medicare coverage begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so call to enroll in a plan that could give you the benefits and stability you're looking for, an aarp medicarecomplete plan insured through unitedhealthcare. what makes it complete? it can combines medicare parts a and b, which is your hospital and doctor coverage with part d prescription drug coverage, and more, all in one simple plan starting at a zero dollar monthly premium -- no more than what you already pay for medicare part b. an aarp medicarecomplete plan offers you benefits like an annual physical, preventive screenings and immunizations for a $0 copay. you'll also have the flexibility to change doctors from a network of providers dedicated to helping you stay healthy. there's more. when you enroll in an aarp medicarecomplete pl
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do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i don't think paul ryan, it matters very much. but i do twhink have a sequence of things that are going to happen here and these ling up the first two things. mitt romney has a paramount goal. he must get past the debate and still have life in this campaign. if he can get through the first debate and convince republicans hi he's still in the race, not abandon him as a lost cause, have a sense that he's still in the game, he then has some options how to spend the last 35 days of the campaign. on foreign policy, the economy, prosecuting the president. this all dpebepends on wednesda night. if he walks out with the world cob cluned that this race is over, the conservatives, the money, you're bob dole, we're going to vote on the house and senate. he's got to get past that first. >>> just before the two candidates scare off in the debate. abc news poll, 49% of likely voters say they would vote for president obama and 47% say they would vote for mitt romney. those numb
do you think paul ryan talking about president obama's foreign policy will move people from obama to romney? >> i'm not -- i don't think paul ryan, it matters very much. but i do twhink have a sequence of things that are going to happen here and these ling up the first two things. mitt romney has a paramount goal. he must get past the debate and still have life in this campaign. if he can get through the first debate and convince republicans hi he's still in the race, not abandon him as a...
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the next four years, if president obama is president obama again, what does the next four years look like in terms of his legislative priorities? >> the next four years is continuing on the path to growing this economy from the middle class out, investing in infrastructure, education, energy, implementing obamacare. there are many aspects left to be implemented so that all americans can fully realize the promise that was built by obamacare. so we are very excited about the next four years should president obama win, and we believe he will. >> thanks so much. appreciate your time on this sunday afternoon. >> thank you so much for having me. >>> everyone remembers the slogan "we like ike," but what does the former military general have in common with president obama? and what can mitt romney learn from him? the man who wrote the book on ike joining us up next. >>> plus, get aggressive or play defense? >> are you ready? >> i'm looking forward to the debates. i'll put it that way. >> we will break down debate strategy with our sunday brain trusts. well, i had all the classic symptoms...
the next four years, if president obama is president obama again, what does the next four years look like in terms of his legislative priorities? >> the next four years is continuing on the path to growing this economy from the middle class out, investing in infrastructure, education, energy, implementing obamacare. there are many aspects left to be implemented so that all americans can fully realize the promise that was built by obamacare. so we are very excited about the next four years...
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will president obama play it safe and perhaps president obama go on the attack? questions and answerings coming up next. and every footstep should tell us we made the right decision. so when we can feel our way through the newest, softest, and most colorful options... ...across every possible price range... ...our budgets won't be picking the style. we will. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now get $37 basic installation on all special order carpet. i just wish it wouldn't fade away so fast. let me show you something. [ dr. rahmany ] as soon as you leave here... plaque quickly starts to grow back. but now there's a way to keep the clean longer. introducing new crest pro-health clinical rinse. it's a clinical breakthrough that actually keeps your teeth 91% clean of plaque at 2 months after a dental visit. plus, it gives you these key benefits. new crest pro-health clinical rinse. crest. life opens up when you do. also try new crest pro-health clinical plaque control toothpaste. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's
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i want to see romney and obama the man. i want to see them -- you know, i can watch ads that put their platforms forward. i can read their websites. but i want to see them speak freely. i think most of america is hungry for that. >> maybe it would be fun to have them at the nerdland table. have a little longer on this show, 90 minutes. chat it up. that's not what they are like. they do have topics. they're going to go to colorado, the site of two major acts of gun violence and nobody is going to talk about that. should they be discussing that? >> they should be discussing that. a guy came up to me from new jersey and said, you know, it would be nice if we could do something like this around poverty like camden and detroit and a bunch of other places. it would be nice to hear mitt romney talk about how he helps the wealthy and middle class. what's his plan to get people out of poverty. >> this is the story behind the numbers. you can have unemployment and still have poverty because of the nature of wage stagnation. you were
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and out west in nevada, obama, 49%, romney, 47%. but while the president holds the overall edge, voters seem less sure as to which candidate would do a better job fixing the economy. in new hampshire, 49% believe that the president would do a better job than mitt romney. 46% believe that mitt romney would do a better job. in north carolina, 47% think that mitt romney's the man to fix the economy, slightly ahead of president obama there who's at 46%. and back out to nevada, 46% think that mitt romney will do a better job, and 47% in nevada think the president can better handle the problems in the economy. that's a question of particular interest in nevada, with of course the housing crisis being at its worst there and unemployment also being above the national average. so does mitt romney have time to make up the difference when it comes to the horse race? here's what nate silver, "the new york times" numbers guru and keeper of the famous 538 blog told nbc's david gregory for the press pass. >> you haven't it now, and that was damagi
and out west in nevada, obama, 49%, romney, 47%. but while the president holds the overall edge, voters seem less sure as to which candidate would do a better job fixing the economy. in new hampshire, 49% believe that the president would do a better job than mitt romney. 46% believe that mitt romney would do a better job. in north carolina, 47% think that mitt romney's the man to fix the economy, slightly ahead of president obama there who's at 46%. and back out to nevada, 46% think that mitt...
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so a useful event for the obama campaign. and again, a way to bank votes early, particularly among students who they want to be free on election day to volunteer and help get out the vote. >> you know, it's kind of interesting though, jamie. people are starting to vote before we've even had our first debate in this election between the two candidates head-to-head. so you got to wonder if some people would rather have waited until maybe thursday to send in their votes. these must be people who have known for a long time and that's it. >> well, yeah. you raise a good point. this is a calculus that the obama campaign seems to be depending on, is that they can mitigate some of the risk of a bad debate, perhaps, by banking these votes early to make sure that they can build it up. and they point to a statistic, alex, that in 2008 obama lost the election on election day here in iowa. but won overall in iowa because of votes that the campaign had banked prior to the election day on early voting. >> jamie, thank you. >>> in a moment,
so a useful event for the obama campaign. and again, a way to bank votes early, particularly among students who they want to be free on election day to volunteer and help get out the vote. >> you know, it's kind of interesting though, jamie. people are starting to vote before we've even had our first debate in this election between the two candidates head-to-head. so you got to wonder if some people would rather have waited until maybe thursday to send in their votes. these must be people...
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it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal between the nfl and the referee's union late wednesday night. the real refs got a standing ovation before thursday night's browns/ravens game in baltimore. here is what makes that scene hilarious. ask any sports fan, player or coach, the least popular man or woman on the field is the one holding the wlislhistle. people hate referees. that is partly as a function. despite the striped uniforms, they are meant to be invisible. we only notice them when they mess up or as it seems when they are gone and not there doing their jobs as professionals. allow me a metaphor of my own. to me, this is part of the labor image we all need to see in america as a whole. these individual maligned individuals at the bottom of the pay scale and the bottom of the status scale within the game of football are the key to its fairness and legitimacy. people will still watch t
it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal between the nfl and the referee's union late wednesday night. the real refs got a standing ovation before thursday night's browns/ravens game in baltimore. here is what makes that scene hilarious. ask any sports fan, player or coach, the least popular man or woman on the field is the one holding the...
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deputy secretary in the obama congress. great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> we know the headline numbers. gdp growth is down, i don't think anyone thinks, awesome, 1.1, 1.2% growth. no one likes that. unemployment, too high. no one is happy except for some of the people on federal reserve board. is happy with unemployment above 8% and yet i think the economic picture is a bit more complicated than the headline numbers indicate. i have been very critical from the left of the recovery have been surprised. joe, are there things you're seeing in the data that suggest why voters seem more bullish on the economy than you might anticipate they would be. >> let me break it down. >> break it down. >> there's two ways of looking at it. one is, the economy is bad. the unemployment is way too high. gdp growth is slow is a really disappointing. we'd like it much stronger. on the other hand, there is this relative way of looking at it compared to other crises, compared to what's going on in europe, compared to what's goin
deputy secretary in the obama congress. great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> we know the headline numbers. gdp growth is down, i don't think anyone thinks, awesome, 1.1, 1.2% growth. no one likes that. unemployment, too high. no one is happy except for some of the people on federal reserve board. is happy with unemployment above 8% and yet i think the economic picture is a bit more complicated than the headline numbers indicate. i have been very critical from the left...
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he'll say obama is not running again bush. get obama to pass the buck on the tough economic recovery and land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to do with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama has done his best, got his stimulus, his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it a month ago. but something's changed. it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer direction is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates, "lockup." >> we are working with serious, dangerous criminals. >> if you like being told what to do, if you like being told when to eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, if you like taking a
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or president obama gets four more years. what's at stake in those periods of time for the country. >> does a constitution still protect a woman ace right to chose boorks. may congress regulate campaign spending at all or are we going to continue to deregulate campaigns like citizens united? will there be a barrier between church and state? those are just a handful of the issues. and the thing about the supreme court is you never know exactly what they're going to deal with, because who among us predicted that they would decide the 2000 election. they have the last word. that's what matters so much about the supreme court. they have the last word on every important issue in the country. >> that brings me to, i'm indicting myself too, but how come none of us has really engaged on the stakes of the court appoint 789s. >> it's a great question. when you follow the campaigns, the topic rarely comes up. whoever the president is next, the likelihood is they won't have a complying congress, they won't be able to do much legislative
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he'll say obama is not running again bush. get obama to pass the buck on the tough kmeeconomic recovery land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to do with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama has done his best, got his stimulus, his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it a month ago. but something's changed. it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a big one. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >> good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 39 days until the 2012 election and five days until the first presidential debate. voter fraud is alive and healthy. tonight we rip the cover off the growing rnc voter suppression scandal. it's there. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. >> mitt romney and the rn
he'll say obama is not running again bush. get obama to pass the buck on the tough kmeeconomic recovery land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to do with it. a month ago all romney had to say was obama has done his best, got his stimulus, his health care program and here we are. i think that might have nailed it a month ago. but something's changed. it could be something as definite ace bill clinton's speech. that's romney's problem and it's a...
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but they aren't obama phone. the idea of getting universal phone service dates back to the 1930s, decades before the obama was born. the current program that helps people get phones started under president reagan. when did it begin including cell phones? in 2008. that's right. under president bush. so a policy dating back to the great depression, formalized by president reagan and expanded by president bush is somehow president obama's fault? did the right wing think i wouldn't give viewers the 411 on this? nice try. but we've got you. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ i'm also a survivor of ovarian a writand uterine cancers. together for your future. i even wrote a play about that. my
but they aren't obama phone. the idea of getting universal phone service dates back to the 1930s, decades before the obama was born. the current program that helps people get phones started under president reagan. when did it begin including cell phones? in 2008. that's right. under president bush. so a policy dating back to the great depression, formalized by president reagan and expanded by president bush is somehow president obama's fault? did the right wing think i wouldn't give viewers the...
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they are obama supporters. let's listen. >> there are these brand-new super [ bleep ] up law as a way to prevent voter fraud but is designed to make it harder for people to vote. black people, elderly people, poor people, and students. i wonder what those demographics have in common? oh, yeah, they are probably going to vote for this guy. >> well, sometimes i think she is so great, joel and li sdplchlt z, i always wonder, is that really the person that was born or did she develop that wonderful personality of her? she makes the point, though, it is partisan. >> i tell you, that is who she is and she and i are doing a video together that we're taping next week so you can look for that, chris. because we're as thick as thieves. >> good connection. joel, your thought about this. is it all one way? first of all, i think it's voter suppression, mainly to keep out minorities. is it all true that you've got to get -- are the republicans doing anything like this to get their team out, the romney people out? >> you have
they are obama supporters. let's listen. >> there are these brand-new super [ bleep ] up law as a way to prevent voter fraud but is designed to make it harder for people to vote. black people, elderly people, poor people, and students. i wonder what those demographics have in common? oh, yeah, they are probably going to vote for this guy. >> well, sometimes i think she is so great, joel and li sdplchlt z, i always wonder, is that really the person that was born or did she develop...
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obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other and what their body chemistry says and so on and so forth. romney was pretty aggressive in a lot of republican debates, interrupting people, leaning forward, that sort of thing. don't think you can do that with the president of the united states. >> there was also, of course, that famous bet in south carolina. >> yeah, right. >> mic
obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that...
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on the other hand it turns out that voters like barack obama. swing state voters like barack obama. they may have questions about the economy, but it really is turning out to be a surprise election because i think that the base and more than the base, is anxious to turn out for barack obama. >> there is sort of a hidden truth beneath this conspiracy talk and that is that most polls are prediction about who will turn out. and a lot of the models predict that obama coalition that turned out last time that tilted in some ways more democratic and in some ways more young, will turn out again. that's based on data itself and it interesting a lot of independent pollsters have come to that conclusion. is there any point hidden in here or just really a bankrupt talking point? >> it's not a prediction. they're asking people are you going to vote and they're saying yes. are you a republican or democrat, that shifts around based on how people are feeling and vote for. but i think one of the things you're seeing in these polls and this story about polling is what you guys said before about havin
on the other hand it turns out that voters like barack obama. swing state voters like barack obama. they may have questions about the economy, but it really is turning out to be a surprise election because i think that the base and more than the base, is anxious to turn out for barack obama. >> there is sort of a hidden truth beneath this conspiracy talk and that is that most polls are prediction about who will turn out. and a lot of the models predict that obama coalition that turned out...
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>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30 states are casting early absentee ballots, that includes five battleground states. is the president's team confident they can keep governor romney from closing the gaps as we see in the polls as of today? >> good morning, alex. i think the obama team is confident but they're cautious. they're six weeks until election day. that's a lifetime when it comes to politics. folks have already started to turn out for early voting. we have a graphic of what we've seen so far. it shows that obama campaign supporters are actually leading right now in terms of voter turnout as compared to romney supporters. i've spoken with officials wit
>> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the ground with enthusiasm anymore. >> let's bring it kristen welker at the white house for you. by the end of the mow, 30...
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they say the poll show obama leading by more than think he is. it's not they're saying the polls are wrong. when every national poll -- i don't think we can say -- when fox news' poll shows obama ahead in a bunch of swing states recently, i don't think we can say the polls are wrong and biased because fox news conservative leading. they show what the polls are showing as well. the president has a strong lead. pollsters have a strong incentive to have their polls be accurate, because that's what their profession is. i'm skeptical they're tries to missample people. the finding more democrats are anyway poll, when a democratic candidate is popular, more people call themselves democrats. that doesn't mean the poll is wrong. more people call themselves democrats than they might have been four or five weeks ago. >> let me bring in mark mckinnon. we'll bring you into this conversation. i want to start with something that newt gingrich said this morning on "morning joe." mark, let me play that. >> everybody i talk to agrees he's had two and a half very t
they say the poll show obama leading by more than think he is. it's not they're saying the polls are wrong. when every national poll -- i don't think we can say -- when fox news' poll shows obama ahead in a bunch of swing states recently, i don't think we can say the polls are wrong and biased because fox news conservative leading. they show what the polls are showing as well. the president has a strong lead. pollsters have a strong incentive to have their polls be accurate, because that's what...
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that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a very big difference when obama is 45, 46 as months ago when everything was 44, now he gets to 48, 49, 5
that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging,...
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better than barack obama. i mean, barack obama's speech w was -- i thought he delivered it very well but bill clinton was a country lawyer and he -- >> it could explain. >> he went item by item and blew up romney's arguments and built up barack obama's arguments. >> bill clinton heads to new hampshire next week to campaign for the president because he is that useful. what do you think, mr. speaker of mr. mitt romney's chances as things stand right now? how do you feel about it? >> i think he has to have a very strong debate. i think they're whistling past the grave yard. >> is that another way of saying he is not doing so well right now? >> sure. i think everybody i talk to agrees he's had two and a half very tough weeks. and i do agree. i think they started with the clinton speech and then they got compounded by all of the stuff that happened. on the other hand, where i think i would disagree and go back to my partisan roots is clinton really described a terrific obama if only he existed. >> right. >> but the
better than barack obama. i mean, barack obama's speech w was -- i thought he delivered it very well but bill clinton was a country lawyer and he -- >> it could explain. >> he went item by item and blew up romney's arguments and built up barack obama's arguments. >> bill clinton heads to new hampshire next week to campaign for the president because he is that useful. what do you think, mr. speaker of mr. mitt romney's chances as things stand right now? how do you feel about...
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obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of error and in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a home, obama leads 51% to 44%. in all, three states registered voters said the direction of the country had indeed improved but the most significant was in new hampshire. back in june there was a 20-point gap between so-called wrong track and right track respondents. this gap is just seven points. yesterday, iowa became the first battleground state to begin early in person voting. ohio will do the same on tuesday. for the second time in two days, president obama and mitt romney spent the day campaigning in the same state. yesterday the candidates descended on virginia, a state that could be a new political bellwether. a poll out last night shows the two candidates neck and neck in the old dominion. they released ads this week that could be their campaigns closing arguments with each ad showing the candidate speaking directly into the camera and directly to the amer
obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of error and in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a home, obama leads 51% to 44%. in all, three states registered voters said the direction of the country had indeed improved but the most significant was in new hampshire. back in june there was a 20-point gap between so-called wrong track and right track respondents. this gap is just seven points. yesterday, iowa became the first...
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romney's only two points behind president obama there. but seven points behind in new hampshire. >> now your job is in danger. >> reporter: both sides came out swinging with new campaign ads thursday. >> if i could sit down with you in your living room or around the kitchen table, here's what i'd say -- >> reporter: what he said in virginia beach was something new, something he calls economic patriotism. >> an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> reporter: romney also in virginia told veterans the nation's debt is more than just numbers on paper. >> trillion dollar deficits. that debt is owned by somebody. someone holds that. that puts america in a position of economic risk. >> reporter: but even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> there is more fire in the belly. >> he needs to stick with the facts. it's all about the economy. >> reporter: more than half the country already started voting days before the first presidential debate. more nu
romney's only two points behind president obama there. but seven points behind in new hampshire. >> now your job is in danger. >> reporter: both sides came out swinging with new campaign ads thursday. >> if i could sit down with you in your living room or around the kitchen table, here's what i'd say -- >> reporter: what he said in virginia beach was something new, something he calls economic patriotism. >> an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing...
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showing president obama in new hampshire up by seven. and showing president obama in north carolina also up by two. because early voting has already started in a majority of swing states, and in a majority of states, period, it's not just a get excited cliche now to say election day is upon us. really,seriousseriously. get excited. it's upon us. it's already started. you can tell it's already started is in part because we're in the triage period of the call pain. the time of the election year when people who are spending money in hopes of effecting the election's outcome start cutting their losses hedging their bets and use their money instead in places they think it will make a difference. "the hill" newspaper reporting this week the republican party's house campaign committee had not yet reserved any ad time for a handful of incumbent republican congressmen. a sign that, quote, congressmen in question -- canceled two weeks of its scheduled ad buy for a north carolina democratic incumbent seen as vulnerable. quote, a sign he thinks he's
showing president obama in new hampshire up by seven. and showing president obama in north carolina also up by two. because early voting has already started in a majority of swing states, and in a majority of states, period, it's not just a get excited cliche now to say election day is upon us. really,seriousseriously. get excited. it's upon us. it's already started. you can tell it's already started is in part because we're in the triage period of the call pain. the time of the election year...
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, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and north carolina. and in a poll released yesterday, up ten points in ohio, nine points in florida. up by 12 points in pennsylvania. is this why we are seeing these desperate measures now? clean across the board, every poller is saying he's up, up, up. >> he's up and it's because of the various strategies because of the romney campaign have failed to work. initially they were running against a bad barack obama who wasn't a good guy and then he became a good guy who was just a little in over his head and couldn't get the economy back on track and now they are trying to make him a dishonest guy. they have see
, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and...
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you look at romney, look at obama. do you see one who is using vulnerability better to make an impression on voters? >> what i -- you know what i see? i like to follow reaction to things like the conventions, to press conferences. what i see is that, you know, slick and shiny and overpromising does not play well anymore for us. i think we want people who stand -- i think we want to see ourselves reflected in our leaders. we want to see people who say, man, this is hard. there's no easy answers. i wish i could bs you into believing there were, but there are not. here is how i want to move forward, this is what i think is important. i think we're ready for some really deep authenticity, some realness, and we want to see leaders whose lives and struggles are reflected, you know. we want to see ourselves reflected in their stories and experiences. i think we're done. i think -- i really think, you know, ironically i started my research six months before 9/11, and so it's been a really powerful thing to watch kind of how th
you look at romney, look at obama. do you see one who is using vulnerability better to make an impression on voters? >> what i -- you know what i see? i like to follow reaction to things like the conventions, to press conferences. what i see is that, you know, slick and shiny and overpromising does not play well anymore for us. i think we want people who stand -- i think we want to see ourselves reflected in our leaders. we want to see people who say, man, this is hard. there's no easy...
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i think michelle obama is a terrific person. i think, you know, joe biden and paul ryan have very different views of the world, but at the end of the day i think people are going to go out and vote in this election based on the two principles, based on what they think about mitt romney and what they think about barack obama and what they think about their vision for the economy. i don't think, you know, all the rest of it sort of helps create a picture but i don't think people are going to vote in this election based on other people other than the two candidates. >> if a big problem for mitt romney is this 47% comment and it does seem that things have trended away from him since then, governor, the question becomes, can you unring the bell? i want to show you an example and obviously it's a spoof, it's from jimmy kimmel, but he was using that, look directly into the camera ad. look what he did with it. >> more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many peopl
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team obama is quickly seizing on early voting. it was just as slow in labeling the attack on the u.s. embassy in libya as an act of terrorism. in an exclusive interview with nbc news and ann curry, claims were discounted the attack were in response to a video produced in california and available on youtube. >> would you call the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi an act of terrorism? >> i have no doubt about that. and it's a preplanned act of terrorism directed against american citizens. >> do you think the movie had anything to do with this attack on the consulate? >> not on this attack. not on this attack. it has nothing to do with this attack. >> and yesterday white house press secretary told reporters traveling on air force one, "it's the case that it's our view as an administration, the president's view, that it was a terrorist attack." it's the first explicit acknowledgement that the president believes the libyan attack was an act of terror. secretary of state hillary clinton speaking at the united nations on wednesday
team obama is quickly seizing on early voting. it was just as slow in labeling the attack on the u.s. embassy in libya as an act of terrorism. in an exclusive interview with nbc news and ann curry, claims were discounted the attack were in response to a video produced in california and available on youtube. >> would you call the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi an act of terrorism? >> i have no doubt about that. and it's a preplanned act of terrorism directed against...
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it's because barack obama was for it. and what you've had over the last four years, and i guess i'm disagreeing with joe a bit here, is the republican party was far more obsessed with preventing obama from succeeding than it was from -- than it was interested in having the country succeed. there are a lot of things in obamacare that could have been inserted if the republicans had played, malpractice and insurance being at the top of the list. >> they were scared by the tea party. they were scared by that whole debate in august of '09. and they never got back to what john heilemann pointed out could be a conservative responsibility argument for the individual mandate. >> and to joe's point, the bipartisanship argument is a powerful argument except for the fact that you can't run on that in a republican primary. and no republicans wanted to hear from mitt romney, i can work with the other party, having achieved all their success on opposing the other par party. and the problem is that the primaries and the general election
it's because barack obama was for it. and what you've had over the last four years, and i guess i'm disagreeing with joe a bit here, is the republican party was far more obsessed with preventing obama from succeeding than it was from -- than it was interested in having the country succeed. there are a lot of things in obamacare that could have been inserted if the republicans had played, malpractice and insurance being at the top of the list. >> they were scared by the tea party. they...
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obama has laid out specific proposals. he's had a job for months now, but mitt romney has been very vague about his proposals for helping the middle class. >> you know what, this strikes me, just thinking now, listening to cynthia, he seems to are been running this campaign for the last six months as someone who expected the voters would want him. not that he would have to sell himself, his plan, his ideas. that the voters would want him as a white knight, coming in and rescuing the company, that is, the u.s. economy. and he didn't have to do much beyond that. as he's finding out, that's not the way the game plays if you want to be leader of the united states. >> there are chinks in his armor, by the way. he didn't count on the knight from arkansas showing up either, bill clinton. >> sir lancelot. >> sir lancelot showed up in the fields and he's not the guy to go jousting with. thank you, to complete the last reference to that metaphor. >>> coming up, more right wing vitriol. newt gingrich said president obama isn't a real
obama has laid out specific proposals. he's had a job for months now, but mitt romney has been very vague about his proposals for helping the middle class. >> you know what, this strikes me, just thinking now, listening to cynthia, he seems to are been running this campaign for the last six months as someone who expected the voters would want him. not that he would have to sell himself, his plan, his ideas. that the voters would want him as a white knight, coming in and rescuing the...
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president obama and mitt romney both speaking at 1:05 today. i wonder your take on the state it's interesting when you look at the dynamics economically at play in ohio. governor cakasic's great job of sheparding the ohio economy to account for state unemployment 7.2%, lower than the national average, it also undercuts mitt romney's message this economy isn't in turn around and time to get someone else. >> makes john kasic a hobbled sur row gate for mitt romney, you can't say the economy is great when you're trying to prove the economy is bad. thing about ohio it's an important state, and remember when 2004 the whole election came down to john kerry losing narrowly to george w. bush in that state, the president has a couple huge advantages we're seeing in the ten-point game, one is the auto bailout. there is no state besides michigan be impacted more positively by the auto bailout than ohio. 82 out of 88 counties have an auto parts supplier in them that's felt a direct effect of the bailout. part of why the economy is doing better there. it's e
president obama and mitt romney both speaking at 1:05 today. i wonder your take on the state it's interesting when you look at the dynamics economically at play in ohio. governor cakasic's great job of sheparding the ohio economy to account for state unemployment 7.2%, lower than the national average, it also undercuts mitt romney's message this economy isn't in turn around and time to get someone else. >> makes john kasic a hobbled sur row gate for mitt romney, you can't say the economy...
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so as far as barack obama, by the way, barack obama scored mid left in both polls. >> interesting. i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular certainly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the 20. they put him at the bottom of the list just below ronald reagan. but it is interesting. the popular people put him in the middle of achievements. it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excluded george w. bush. to my regret they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson charted american history for the next years. >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand large you have to look at who the republicans are. you've about got warren harding who was always drunk and making love in a closet. corrupt. you've got herbert hoover, decent made
so as far as barack obama, by the way, barack obama scored mid left in both polls. >> interesting. i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular certainly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the 20. they put him at the bottom of the list just below ronald reagan. but it is interesting. the popular people put him in the middle of achievements. it was one of the top ten in the country, so they...
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it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. >> so there you go. he turned it into the presidential campaign. wisconsin governor scott walker tweeted this. being pro-taxpayer doesn't make me anti-union. besides, private sector unions are often our partners in economic development. that's his reason for siding with the referees union. the nfl release add statement yesterday saying this, there is broad agreement that the quality and consistency of officiating can and should be improved. how to accomplish that is a critical issue separating two sides in this negotiation. we are prepared to make reasonable economic compromises and will invest more money in officiating as long as it assures long-term improvement. whatever. >>> they're on the trail. the ones that are stuck there, they're eating chicken noodle. don't forget, you can always follow the show on facebook. you're watching msnbc. i told her i wasn't feeling like myself... i had pain in my pelvic area... and bleeding that wasn'
it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. >> so there you go. he turned it into the presidential campaign. wisconsin governor scott walker tweeted this. being pro-taxpayer doesn't make me anti-union. besides, private sector unions are often our partners in economic development. that's his reason for siding with the referees union. the nfl release add statement yesterday saying this, there is broad agreement that the quality and...
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vote for barack obama? he had so many chances during the campaign to carve out his own identity, which i think is closer to the real mitt romney. >> mark halperin? >> two events here in the city. he talked about his roles in the city. very educational. very educational show with brian. showed that he's a policy guy, cared about issues as the governor dug into him. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the thing he has to become is a fighter. he has to have guys like joe scarborough look at him every day and say he's fighting for the party, for the country, and fighting to turn the country around. i don't see that but if he doesn't see that. em's going to be very hard to keep the party behind him. >> what's coming up next, mika? >> coming up, from the nuclear tension in iran to the war in syria, can the u.n. security council come up with any solution? >>> "guys with kids" co-created by jimmy fallon. we'll talk with one of the stars.
vote for barack obama? he had so many chances during the campaign to carve out his own identity, which i think is closer to the real mitt romney. >> mark halperin? >> two events here in the city. he talked about his roles in the city. very educational. very educational show with brian. showed that he's a policy guy, cared about issues as the governor dug into him. but that mitt romney does not get very much attention and he doesn't put it on display very often. and it's now -- the...
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how does president obama win? how do the democrats get their vote out when they have these road blocks in front of them? the general election is right around the corner. >> it's around the corner, but folks have to get informed of what kind of i.d. they need. oneover the biggest problems in florida is they have done voter purges that have been stopped. they went after voters with surnames saying they weren't sure if they were citizens or not. we have to make sure we're communicating to our communities, understanding what the voter i.d. laws are and how to make sure we're getting those i.d.s. >> the numbers add up that this it could be the election. fair enough? >> this is a game plan. the biggest problem is you can't change the rules in the middle of the game because you're afraid of the outcome. you can't steal the vote. you should be trying to sway them and make sure they are participating. >> what do you make of what's going on in pennsylvania? pennsylvania voter i.d. could prevent one out of six latinos from v
how does president obama win? how do the democrats get their vote out when they have these road blocks in front of them? the general election is right around the corner. >> it's around the corner, but folks have to get informed of what kind of i.d. they need. oneover the biggest problems in florida is they have done voter purges that have been stopped. they went after voters with surnames saying they weren't sure if they were citizens or not. we have to make sure we're communicating to...